It was a pleasure to get to appear on my friend and fellow Defector Dustin Ramsdell’s podcast, Higher Ed Geek. If you include his stint as cohost of the Student Affairs Spectacular podcast, it’ll mark the third time we’ve shared the airwaves! In this third edition, we get a little more personal and talk about humor, book nerditude, and the empowering origin of #speakersneakers. Check out the episode– and thanks Dustin for having me on again! Remember, at five I get a zip-up hoodie. Them’s the rules.